Infidel
11:04 Thu Feb 18
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Hairy
No, the threat and actions are not remotely the same as they were when Russia was run by the Soviet Communists.
The USSR was locked in an arms race with the West between 1945 and 1989. We came to the brink of a nuclear war during the Cuban missile crisis that would have wiped out most of humanity - and that was just one of several near misses.
Russia poses no threat whatsoever to the West today. There is no chance - absolutely zero - of the Kremlin launching any nuclear strikes on any other state. We live in a new and much less dangerous world since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Russia defends its interests robustly, as indeed do many other countries. When it does so it attracts comments from people like you that 'nothing has changed' since the days of the USSR, which means you outrageously equate conventional military engagements in an obscure part of eastern Ukraine with global thermonuclear war. How can these two things be considered even remotely equivalent?
As for China, it manifestly isn't communist any more because (i) it doesn't have a centrally planned economy and (ii) it does not even attempt to equalise economic outcomes amongst its citizens.
It is also not getting poorer, as you mistakenly stated. It is getting richer, just at a slower rate than before.
Italy is getting poorer - GDP down 12% since 2008. Greece is getting poorer (GDP down 22%). But China is galloping ahead with economic growth outstripping the rest of the world comfortably. The BRICS in total will grow GDP 4-5% this year, a rate which doubles the size of their economy every 15-20 years.
The real threat the world faces today is not Russia or China but the threat to the market economy - the greatest engine of prosperity ever invented - from the alarming rise of socialism in the democratic West, and to a lesser extent the security threats from the spread of radical Islam.
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Mr Anon
10:58 Thu Feb 18
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HairyHammer 10:56 Thu Feb 18
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Yes exactly, it's so routine it's probably considered a joint exercise.
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HairyHammer
10:56 Thu Feb 18
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Mr Anon
So they are just playing War games ?
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Mr Anon
10:49 Thu Feb 18
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HairyHammer 3:57 Thu Feb 18
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Two Russian bombers were heading for the UK only yesterday afternoon, RAF jets were scrambled to intercept them, the question is why does Russia do this ?.
That is so common, I'm suprised it even made the news- they do it to terst response times and happened almost every day for 20 years before the soviet collapse.
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
10:46 Thu Feb 18
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HairyHammer 10:43 Thu Feb 18
FUCK SAKE did 13 Br Road cut your hair today and whisper sweet nothings in your ear?
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HairyHammer
10:46 Thu Feb 18
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Infidel
We were all happy Europeans not so long ago now we want to be British English, it is all only a hop and skip away, if the leaders wish to play it that way.
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HairyHammer
10:43 Thu Feb 18
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Infidel
I do know that Communism is now supposedly extinguished to capitalism, but the threats and actions remain as they did back when.
China and Russia are losing prosperity very quickly, think about it, its all going down when desperation comes to play.
How can you play the game of Capitalism with no money ?
The two country's have a decent enough red majority who preferred things the way they were before.
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Infidel
10:23 Thu Feb 18
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Communism?
Oh dear...WHO plumbs new depths of ignorance
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ILOVEPAOLODICANIO
4:08 Thu Feb 18
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THe leaders just have to blow a little hot air.
And some hot air is OK.
Thing is Putin and Russia's economy getting fucked really only fucks over rich Russians abroad when the Rouble is worthless. Domestically life continues much the same.
Rich ex pats can be fucked over with the exchange rate and thats all that really happens when things like this kick up.
Bush started a war in 2001 instead of just releasing some hot air. Some tough talk would have been a more appropriate response than that innit?
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HairyHammer
4:01 Thu Feb 18
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Far cough
Well so they say but the authoritarian manner and secretive nature to me say's nothing much has changed from the past apart from a small minority making loadsa bonce.
I used Communism because two of the countries I mentioned were Communist not too long ago Putin served it proudly too.
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HairyHammer
3:57 Thu Feb 18
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Two Russian bombers were heading for the UK only yesterday afternoon, RAF jets were scrambled to intercept them, the question is why does Russia do this ?.
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Saul Bollox
2:32 Thu Feb 18
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Yes, yes, yes
err er no, no
I don't fucking know
Fuck 'em
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Far Cough
2:25 Thu Feb 18
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Err, Russia is not communist is it?
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